Neighbors and allies of Quesada Gardens Initiative gathered to discuss possible changes to the landmark public space on the 1700 block of Quesada Avenue in the heart of Bayview, on Saturday February 18th, following the weekly Every Saturday Volunteer Day. Ideas about one of the City's most beloved public spaces flowed.
The Quesada Gardens Initiative,
the organization that started when Annette Smith and Karl Paige first
planted a garden on the median strip on the 1700 block of Quesada
Avenue, invited all those who care about this lovely place to
participate. Like most Quesada Gardens Initiative events it was an informal and fun gathering that aimed to accomplish important things:
- Protect the spirit and history of the project, especially the many special parts of the current median strip developed by Annette, Karl and others who joined in with them during the early days of the project.
- Hear from newer neighbors about their experience on the block, and about how the median strip can reflect it.
- Present new ideas that project groups focused on specific sections of the median strip have come up with.
For more, here are the notes (thank you, Sonia-Lynn!) from this community gathering:
Quesada Gardens Community
Consensus Gathering (at 1747 Quesada)
February 18, 2012
Participants
Residents who live near the garden, others with deep
roots in the neighborhood or 1700 block of Quesada Avenue, and USF design
volunteers provided input at the gathering and in various ways in the days
leading up to it. Participants included:
Kathy
Looper
Craig
Cannon
Chris
Waddling
Annette
Smith
Rita
Collins
Shane
King
Liz
Skow
Mike
Seth
Wachtel
Elliott Wachtel
Oliver Wachtel
Mariano Tabios
Diego
Sanchez
Marcus
Harvey
Mary
McClure
Joel
McClure
Scott
Ying
Kevin
Ying
Tai
Trang
Alan
Savervia
Mike
Aisenfeld
Eric
Theo
Ellington
Jeffrey
Betcher
Linda
Pettus
Tom
Galante
Tony
Tarket
Franklin
Sudeep
Motupalli Rao
Carla
Eagleton
Sonia-Lynn R. Abenojar
Abraham
Sasha Doo
Nathaniel
Albert
Toh, Palou
Elaine
Toh, Palou
Jon
Chester
Steve
Jordan
Judith
de Vera
Dolores
Williams
Cody
Reynolds
Process
A gathering at 1747 Quesada had been publicized via
Bayview Footprints, door-to-door flyers, posters, and personal contacts. The gathering took place following our Every
Saturday Volunteer Day and lunch. Other
feedback came via email and notations on flyers. A dinner was held on the Thursday preceding
the gathering for several people unable to make it on the 18th. Another smaller consensus gathering was held
at the Palou Community Project site earlier on the 18th to orient
new design students and project leaders to that project.
Project Leaders from the 1700 block of Quesada had had
numerous conversations with individuals in their project groups, and other
advisers that generated many ideas.
Carla Eagleton made a full presentation of a new concept for the 3rd
street end of the median strip. Jacob
Watta, Tony Tarket, with Jeffrey Betcher reviewed ideas about the Founders’
Memorial and the center section of the median strip.
Presentation ideas, Q&A, participant
feedback
Principles
of QGI – Forming community around interests: food, gardening, social space,
increasing racial diversity, sustainable systems, designing the changes, and
empowering residence.
Presentation
#1 3rd
Street & Quesada Entrance
Carla Eagleton + Team Members
Carla Eagleton + Team Members
Background: 2009 Carla project leader of entrance of
garden – 25 years in design business – painter / plasterer
·
Consensus meetings with community members –
drawing was made by USF students – feedback was taken from over a year.
Positive feedback about the design.
·
Charm of garden doesn’t want to be lost.
Homemade quality. Not fabricated. Asymmetrical, organic, magical, 99% of plants
planted by Annette (community member). Plants are becoming outdated, no
irrigation system.
·
Notes about proposed design by USF: people
did not like the “plaza type “
- Community members didn’t like the pavement/pavers.
- The arch seemed like a “Disneyland arch”
- Community members didn’t like the pavement/pavers.
- The arch seemed like a “Disneyland arch”
·
For the proposed design by Carla: Doesn’t
cost any money – only handwork for neighbors and maybe the planter boxes.
·
Only Expense – art piece
- Body level art piece – made of mosaic – butterfly at eye level not a grand
- Butterfly means : transformation – freedom
- Mosaic work done by an artist – bead work referencing African Amercian relevance
- “made from Broken and found things” organic shape form - not friendly to sit on (done purposely)
- Body level art piece – made of mosaic – butterfly at eye level not a grand
- Butterfly means : transformation – freedom
- Mosaic work done by an artist – bead work referencing African Amercian relevance
- “made from Broken and found things” organic shape form - not friendly to sit on (done purposely)
·
Crowning jewel of neighborhood: palm trees
natural landscape
·
Concern: garbage - need for trashcans
·
The culture of Bayview allows creative local
artists to participate in the local setting
·
The stylistic design of old proposed design –
will promote loittering - it’s made for
a space to hang out. Will invite negative activity.
·
Estimated cost of the proposed design: 12
grand + labor
·
Inspiration for proposed design: 18th
and Rhode Island Garden
·
Conversation with Annette: Sadness because
they want a garden and they cannot have them because of bureaucracy. People
just want to garden. Design is to promote gardening by community members. “Be a
part of the earth” gathering spaces – but not flat paved opened spaces. A sign
will still exist, but not grand sign that will take over.
·
Balance of what residents see in front of
their house and what the community members are hoping to do in areas the span
more than one home. Honoring both sides.
·
Carla reached out to residents – notes are
included in the handout from Carla.
Questions/concerns/comments:
·
#1 Referring to pathway – what is “fine
pathway” on drawings?
Response: “fine pathway” –
also called golden fine (Samples is from Broadmore) decomposed granite. They
are different colors of granite.
·
#2 Budget- Have you taken consideration of
the things that we can get for free?
E.i. - urbanite, topsoil, compost, mulch – free from city. Zero cost.
E.i. - urbanite, topsoil, compost, mulch – free from city. Zero cost.
Response: Carla bid high on
purpose for the things that could possibly go over budget. Handicap access not
included in budget. We will revisit the budget.
·
#3 Concerned – speeding of cars on street,
people getting hit, children, talk of getting speed bumps.
Response. Accommodate people
who are there, working to get speed bumps from city. They have brought this up
at city meetings, it is in the plan to get them.
·
#4 Question: Do you plan on putting benches
all over the front entrance?
Response: 3 benches – mud
color discrete, we don’t want to publicize seating
·
#5 Question: Will you put trashcans?
Response: Yes, great idea.
·
#6 Comment: Compliments of the wonderful
design, excited for the updated design.
·
#7 Concern: “No Through” sign – is that
addressed in the design? New signage?
Response: It hasn’t gotten
to the city level yet – we don’t want eye sores. Working on it, there must be
someway to accommodate the signage problem. It’s getting a lot of attention.
Disabled sign – disabled
access.
·
#8 Referring to artists- expertise and areas.
How connected are the artists specified in handout with the block? Is diversity of neighborhood taken into the
account in the design process?
Response: The artists are
members of the community and have lived in the neighborhood. One artist came to
a QGI meeting.
·
#9 Commenting on the efforts spent
- potential
pathway through the median for people/children
- liked
the organic elements – adobe benches
- Aesthetic
could set a tone for rest of the garden.
Presentation #2 & #3 Founder’s
Memorial and Center Section
Current ideas were reviewed by Jeffrey with comments from
Jacob and Tony
Background:
A plaque was donated by Mayor Newsome to celebrate Karl, Annette and the first
co-founders of the project. Steve Aiello, a resident and landscape designer, worked
with James Ross and community members to create the community-based design for
the Founders’ Memorial, and to build the project with volunteers.
·
Center section has not received a lot of
attention. Plants have overgrown.
·
Cut back, thin it, get it back to what it
used to be.
·
Major issues: safety – drop off above mural.
Dig down or make railing higher.
·
Interest in moving blue pots
·
Integrate drought tolerant plants
·
Put in another bench – there was pushback on
the bench in the past because of unwanted activities take would occur. Now
people want a bench because they have been used in a good manner.
·
Wind chime - artful
·
Get rid of planters
·
Traffic comments – add mirrors at corner
·
Herb garden – build capacity around behavior
·
More aromatic plants – scented plants.
·
Area school children mural project on steps –
city killed project. Tiles still exist. Wanting to incorporate them into the
site.
·
More palm trees, some are getting older. Need
to replant.
·
Tie the top of the hill to the front of the
block. Some people give away palm trees
·
Idea to sell palm trees.
·
Safety first – railing – soil next to railing
– dig a trench next to railing so that there’s no debris that falls into the
cul de sac. There is netting on the railing now. New work could better protect people and cars
below.
·
3rd street & Newhall ends of
block have blind spots and need mirrors and safety measures
·
No accidents
·
Sensory or aromatic plants are good. Scent is
a powerful trigger- creating a sensational experience
·
Keep in mind the height restriction of plants
because of the utility companies
·
Be mindful of blocking views
·
Tony – master gardener & horticulture has
taken care of center section – cleans up as it’s a full time job
·
Traffic calming – crosswalk, signage,
flashing lights.
·
We need designated places for plant starts
and mulch drop off’s.
·
We need a storage container for the things
necessary for public events in cul de sac. Attractive structure built into the
hillside, possibly with Habitat for Humanity.
·
Cut-through’s on median
·
Poop bags and dispensers
·
More terracing and retaining walls for slope
·
Food swap area- not well used or attractive,
could be moved, changed. Need for a space that’s aesthetically pleasing
·
Plant ideas for vegetable patch include collard
greens and pumpkins
·
Growing edible things are questioned because
of car’s carbon emissions.
·
Neighbor wants a fig tree.
·
Lavender patch requested.
·
We could define other zones in the garden as
neighbors step forward to lead projects or work in front of their homes.
·
Annette suggests that vining plants could
make sense towards the top of the hill along with collard greens & corn at
top of the hill. The original gardening
section is not a good place for vining plants.
·
Top of hill coming down to fence, by railing
– space in between - define a bed of space
Questions/concerns/comments:
·
Concerns: Pathway through median could be
nice but would be hard to construct going up the hill. The irrigation lines will need to be
protected. Utility lines at the top of
hill limit plant height, though burying of utility lines is supposed to happen.
·
Comment: Kathy Looper – resident and
community leader – likes the community building approach to what QGI is
doing. She and her husband LeRoy have been
doing similar things for a long time, and love seeing more happen.
·
Comment: Theo Ellington – youth community – admires
the work we’ve done, and is happy to see a good process which seems so much
easier than others he’s been part of.
Theo grew up in the community, and remembers riding his bike at the top
of the hill. He is amazed at all the
progress.
·
Comment: Mariano Tabios – whose family has
been in the neighborhood for generations – has enjoyed being part of the Palou
Community Project. He supports our work.
·
Comment: Community member “Greg” – wonderful
to see neighbors developing our community.
·
Request: check in with project leaders before
starting to work on sites, so they can direct you. Community coordination is
key.
·
Suggestion: Use Sloat Gardens extra
plants. Maybe they will give us a cash
donation.
·
Comment: Heartening to witness the gardening
and transformation of the neighborhood.
·
Suggestion: “Bulges” (instead of speed bumps)
to slow down traffic.
·
Suggestion: Incorporate bricks from the art
piece from the old library that was torn down into new landscaping.
Next steps:
·
Project Development Committee will review
everything before the next board meeting.
(The board meeting is scheduled for 3/13, but may need to be rescheduled
because 3/13 is also the date of our big event with the mayor and Scotts
Miracle Gro.
·
As we will get a delivery of $10,000 dollars
worth of mulch from Miracle Gro soon, we will need to move quickly so we know
where to put it all.
·
We expect phase one to be done by fall.
·
Project groups should think about what they
want volunteers on 3/13 to do, and project leaders should be ready to lead
teams to ensure what they want to happen happens.
·
We want to have plans and renderings of new
projects available for viewing at the event.
·
We will move forward with the identification
and labeling of important plants so we can be sure they are protected. Signage
of plants with backstory/history should be incorporated into all our plans.
Enjoy a freshly potted pineapple sage plant as a
gift from Jacob.
Smells nice. Great for cooking.
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